peacefulpete, I notice you said "Disi...My 2 cents. ... Reasonable caution is always appropriate but imputing murderous motives to the world's health organizations is something quite different." Did you think I was imputing murderous motives to the world's health organizations? I was not doing that at all. I disagree with those who impute such motives, but I was also asking for clarification from some of those who impute such motives. At the same time though, I think the Covid-19 vaccines might not be as safe as the medical community (the world's health organizations) claims they are. I do believe that the bast majority of those in the medical community who claim the vaccines are safe truly believe they are safe.
But early televised news reports of major complications (clots and heart problems) make me wonder. Furthermore, the anecdotal evidence I have seen in my own legs. and which I have been told about by my close friends and family about a now dead elderly friend of mine (who got a stroke and died about a week after getting the first dose of the vaccine) and about my mother's severe brain condition make me wonder if the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines have a major problem. Furthermore, the very nature of how the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines function has concerned me since I learned of how they work. Some of my co-workers have received the Covid-19 illness after they got vaccinated (even with the same brand of the vaccine I received). One of the co-workers got Covid-19 twice while she was fully vaccinated against Covid-19. She ended up missing months of work. When she returned to the workplace her health condition looked awful - looking like she had a stroke and became physically handicapped as result. She told us she came to say goodbye to us, because her health condition now prevents her from resuming her job in our workplace again.
I do have a respect for medical science, but I also exercise independent thinking and critical thinking in my personal medical matters. When I meet my doctor and my nurse, I ask them questions if they tell me something which seems incorrect (or possibly incorrect) or possibly unsafe to me. I sometimes bring up medical information I have read in online from trusted health information sources and I ask them about that in regards to what they told me. When I was in the hospital recently due to massive blood loss from internal bleeding, I questioned the conclusion of a doctor who said I was well enough to leave the hospital and return to work. I told a doctor why I didn't think I was well enough. It was good that I did such because the next day (or two days later) in the hospital I started bleeding again and my health condition became much worse. The condition became so bad I ended up accepting a transfusion of two units of packed red blood cells in order to save my life and my health. [Those transfusions were the first times (and thus far the only times) I accepted a blood transfusion.] I felt immediately better within an hour after getting each transfusion. My health condition greatly improved and then I left the hospital. If I hadn't questioned the earlier conclusion of one of the doctors (who said it was safe for me to go home), I would likely be dead by now, or I would have had to return immediately back the hospital, likely by ambulance.
A few years ago my doctor at the time prescribed Naproxen to me to reduce inflammation cause by an injury. I told him I prefer to not take man-made drugs if possible, preferring herbal medicine instead. He assured me the medication was safe and better treatment. I thus accepted it and began taking it. But, the medication ended up causing extreme pain in my digestive tract and as a result I reduced my dosage (from the prescribed amount) and I reduced the frequency of the dosage. About two years later I decided to take some of the pills, thinking that by reducing inflammation in general it would be good for my health and longevity prospects, but my new nurse and doctor at the time insistently demanded that I stop taking it. I then researched the medication online and discovered that new medical data says the medication [and other nonsteroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAID)] can cause bleeding and severe damage (even without symptoms) and even death. [Seehttps://medlineplus.gov/druginfo/meds/a681029.html .] After learning that I haven't taken it again. I learned I was right to be initially suspicious of the safety of that medication.
The medical community used to recommend that most people age 60 or over to take aspirin daily to reduce their risk of getting a hear attack, but new medical data now says the danger of the aspirin causing bleeding is greater than formerly thought. As a result the medical community no longer recommends that most people age 60 and older to take it. https://connect.uclahealth.org/2022/04/26/daily-aspirin-no-longer-recommended-to-prevent-heart-disease/ says the following.
"A panel of disease-prevention experts says older adults who don’t have heart disease should not take daily low-dose aspirin to prevent a first heart attack or stroke, a shift from earlier guidance.
The U.S. Preventive Services Task Force, a panel of physicians who review scientific research to develop guidelines to improve Americans’ health, published new recommendations on April 26 advising against daily aspirin use for the prevention of cardiovascular disease in people age 60 and older.
Taking baby aspirin daily has been routine for millions of Americans looking to prevent a heart attack or stroke. Aspirin has blood-thinning properties that can reduce the likelihood of blood clots forming in the arteries. But these same properties can also cause ulcers and bleeding in the digestive tract.
The task force says in its new recommendations that low-dose daily aspirin to prevent cardiovascular disease (CVD) has a modest benefit for people ages 40 to 59 who aren’t at increased risk for bleeding.
It concludes that there is “no net benefit” of taking aspirin for primary prevention of heart disease in those 60 and older."
Aspirin has been a problem for me, staring with the earliest time I took it. Whenever I take more than one whole pill in a two-day period I have extreme pain (excruciating pain) in my digestive tract. As a result, I no longer take it. Tylenol (Acetaminophen) also is a problem, but I can tolerate more of it before experiencing digestive tract pain.